Education: Why Asia is Better than Chile
Can't speaky eengleesh? In an article about Latin America's poor economic growth, Andrés Oppenheimer helps explain why. Latin America is buzzing off high commodities prices yet economic growth is lower than Africa let alone Eastern Europe and Asia. What's at the root of this? It's the education, stupid (I couldn't resist). Writes Oppenheimer:
In Chile, education was privatized by the military junta. Still sucks balls.
Bad University Education in Chile
What better proof that university education in Chile sucks, than to look at the pathetic defense given it by one of its strongest proponents, Carlos Peña, rector of the private Chilean university Diego Portales. Pictured here:

Worth noting that he's been panned as a hack by one of Chile's most respected historians, albeit a bit pugnacious, Alfredo Jocelyn-Holt Letelier. On a personal note, this Alfredo resembles Me in 40 years, but I only recently discovered this image and my affinity for him dates further back, based on his Mind, not his looks:

The Santiago Times, nevertheless, calls it a "comprehensive analysis", dutifully translating Peña's erratic elegiac to countless unaccredited universities in Chile. Writes Peña:
At this point, one would expect Peña to forcefully lambast the charlatans who profit on the folly of their compatriots. Or at least disassociate his supposedly prestigious institution from them. He does neither:
In fact, Peña openly encourages the proliferation of crappy, unaccredited schools as fundamental "attributes of the system, mixed together to get us [where] we are".
Which, according to Peña, is a good place. I don't think Oppenheimer would agree. But I should read his book, "Cuentos Chinos", that he wrote about the real state of Latin American economy. Perhaps he'll show that Chile is leading Latin America, but I doubt it. No Chilean schools showed up on the Times of London Top 200.
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Just remember that Oppenheimer seems to decry "state-run" education in Latin America. He notes that education in Asia is better than Latin America. Yet Peña is careful to point out how his country's diverse and privatized educational system "distinguishes Chile from other countries like Japan and South Korea." Oppenheimer noted a distinction as well: Asian schools are better.
...the most troubling trend for Latin America is its stagnation in education, science and technology. While Asians and Eastern Europeans are creating increasingly highly skilled labor forces, most Latin American countries have barely modified their outdated education systems.Oppenheimer is nakedly neoliberal, so I'm going to throw out the bathwater, not the baby. The problem isn't necessarily that these schools are "state-run", as he slyly suggests. The problem is just that the overall culture of education in Latin America sucks balls.
In China, to my surprise, I learned that children in all public schools begin English-language classes in third grade, four hours a week. I asked Mexico's education minister a few weeks later what grade Mexican public-school students start studying English. The answer: seventh grade, two hours a week.
...Many Mexicans, Argentines and other Latin Americans believe their big, state-run universities are great, but they're actually pretty mediocre. The Times of London's 2007 ranking of the world's 200 best universities features only three Latin American universities, at the very bottom of the list: the University of Sao Paulo, Brazil (178th,) the University of Campinas, Brazil (179th), and the National Autonomous University of Mexico (195th). About a dozen universities from China, Singapore and South Korea rank much higher.
In Chile, education was privatized by the military junta. Still sucks balls.
Bad University Education in Chile
What better proof that university education in Chile sucks, than to look at the pathetic defense given it by one of its strongest proponents, Carlos Peña, rector of the private Chilean university Diego Portales. Pictured here:

Worth noting that he's been panned as a hack by one of Chile's most respected historians, albeit a bit pugnacious, Alfredo Jocelyn-Holt Letelier. On a personal note, this Alfredo resembles Me in 40 years, but I only recently discovered this image and my affinity for him dates further back, based on his Mind, not his looks:

The Santiago Times, nevertheless, calls it a "comprehensive analysis", dutifully translating Peña's erratic elegiac to countless unaccredited universities in Chile. Writes Peña:
We have a very diverse higher educational system...There is also a great deal of variation in the way these higher education institutions are governed...There are also, of course, different levels of quality. Some are extremely complex institutions, like the University of Chile or Catholic University. Some are led only by their professors. Some have been accredited, some have not been. Some are very selective, and others enroll any student who signs up.Great, so students with horrible grades, learning disabilities, or whatever can spend a boatload of money to go to an unaccredited university on the false promise of an improved life, that a degree from one of these snake-oil salesmen will propel them into higher social status, and that somehow they won't end up working as diaper-wearing grocery store clerks earning US$2/hr, if employed at all.
At this point, one would expect Peña to forcefully lambast the charlatans who profit on the folly of their compatriots. Or at least disassociate his supposedly prestigious institution from them. He does neither:
It is likely that the different attributes of the system, mixed together, have all worked together to get us were we are (See my piece on The Santiago Typos). The fact that the system is largely privately owned has contributed to its radical growth. And this would not be possible if not for the fact that the institutions are stratified into different levels of selectivity.I'm not making this up. This is an open and explicit admission that profit trumps quality in Chile's highly profitable business of education.
In fact, Peña openly encourages the proliferation of crappy, unaccredited schools as fundamental "attributes of the system, mixed together to get us [where] we are".
Which, according to Peña, is a good place. I don't think Oppenheimer would agree. But I should read his book, "Cuentos Chinos", that he wrote about the real state of Latin American economy. Perhaps he'll show that Chile is leading Latin America, but I doubt it. No Chilean schools showed up on the Times of London Top 200.
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Just remember that Oppenheimer seems to decry "state-run" education in Latin America. He notes that education in Asia is better than Latin America. Yet Peña is careful to point out how his country's diverse and privatized educational system "distinguishes Chile from other countries like Japan and South Korea." Oppenheimer noted a distinction as well: Asian schools are better.
















22 Comments:
This time I so totally agree. I'm just one of the thousands of victims of Chile's educational system of the past 20 years. So much, that I had to just mash together some courses from inside and outside the country and earn knowledge in the field, effectively teaching myself sound engineering and music production, The fact the my English is reasonably good is just an accident that has to do with my family's exile. Not something I can really thank Pinochet for. But it's scary to notice how privileged I am just because I can speak two languages.
Education's value is self-evident. How many educated people don't value their education? The proposed performance pay in Las Condes is evidence of this.
Governments suck, but in general they only need to do three things to be passably good.
1. Don't kill your citizens
2. Don't rip them off
3. Educate them
Everything else is gravy.
It amazes me that these things are so hard, yet Chile has only recently learned(arguably) the first two and is still waffling about the third.
I sometimes wonder why latin america is so bad regarding this. I'm tempted to generalize and say that the spanish were just crappy colonizers. The land grant system and commodity focus screwed pretty much every colony. But blaming current performance on historical bias is really just a sop offered to validate crappy leadership.
Carlos Peña? Alfredo Jocelyn-Holt? Andrés Oppenheimer???
Yuck, can you get any more mainstream?
I'm sure your main news sources —besides The Santiago Times— are El Mercurio and La Tercera, right?
Listen up, gringo.
We have problems with cocky Americans like yourself coming into our country to criticize us, laugh at us, belittle us. Perhaps you haven't realized that is rude to do?
Let me tell ya. That is something you don't do when you go to work to another country. Especially when you're a gringo.
Puedes ser chileno y criticar a Chile todo lo que quieras, pero simplemente no puedes darte ese lujo siendo un gringo. No te has ganado ese derecho. You haven't earned it. Got it?
It's like calling someone a nigger. It's OK for a black guy to say that to another black guy, but it's most definitely not OK for a white guy to say that to a black guy.
To sum it up in one word: ubícate. Write that on your forehead every day before you go to bed, so you see it the next morning when go you look at yourself in the mirror.
Nighty-night.
Tim I'm not so sure about number two. Most products and services in Chile have first-world prices and yet the country has third world wages, and the former is rising faster than the latter as far as I can tell.
@Anonymous
I am criticizing mainstream media. You've got a confused, prepubescent mentality that anything mainstream = bad. You're so brain-dead that even criticism of mainstream becomes part of the Machine. Put your headphones back in, crank up the death metal and go destroy another bus stop. The rest of us (mostly) will continue with intelligent social criticism.
@Yours Truly
I read the Ugly American in 3rd grade and even then recognized it for what it was: hack writing for gringos wracked by misdirected White Guilt.
Your throwback xenophobia does Chile a disservice. Fortunately, I know plenty of many smart, open minded Chileans who appreciate my constructive criticism.
Your confusion between your country and your personal identity shows that as a person you are incredibly shallow. You are a cardboard cut out, you lack depth, you are a waste of space, a bloated carbon footprint with no redeeming value.
Your pea-sized brain is equivalent to that of livestock, slaughtering you know would do the world a favor.
Criticizing education in Chile has absolutely no corollary to racial slurs. Just the opposite. Encouraging improvements in education is doing my small part to lift you out of intellectual and economic poverty. You, however, would prefer to remain a dumb spic.
And let the rest of your country wallow in the mire of illiteracy and exploitation as well, you sadistic fucking asshole.
When a foreigner criticizes Chile's problems he helps empower and validate Chileans. Your problem is that you would like things to stay the way they are in Chile. You FEAR criticism from abroad, because it comes as a catalyst for change. And my brand of criticism encourages change for the better, because I encourage education, and I rail against neoliberalism.
Then you turn around and use these haggard liberal arguments about "Ugly American" and hypocritically use racial epithets like "gringo" (it's the way you use it that's racist) in an attempt to play self-righteous, holier-than-thou third worlder well you're not tricking anybody you lowdown, miserable excuse for a literate individual.
@Ignacio
I agree. The privatization of key public services like electricity and water has seen prices shoot through the roof, it's government bending over to business every time. On top of that the government doesn't bother subsidize shit. Even Argentina subsidizes gas prices.
California schools, at least before hitting the college level, rank pretty low on the national lists... The public schools where I grew up were pretty underfunded, neglected and sometimes dangerous places which were not really ideal for education... If you're middle class enough you had the option of private schools, many of which were Catholic, which as I found out for three years didn't guarantee you would enter public highschool with a working knowledge of algebra but you stood a better chance of not having been beaten up before reaching the final lap. Some of the private schools were not affiliated with religion and catered to the upper middle-class kids who would go on to college regardless of their grades, some were shitty parochial schools, some were better than shitty... Some failing public schools were taking over by a private company which created its own curriculum and eventually failed...
Considering the Catholic influence in Latin America I'm assuming there's the option for some form of private education available to those who can pay or whose faith will enable charity to pay the way... Are they any good? Are schools outside of the major cities better? Do they have schools in the rural areas? Do they have grades like 'D' which are easily changed to 'B' before your parents see the report?
The grading system is numbers-based 1 through 10. "4" is just begging to become a "9". Or the other way 'round?
In Carlos Peña's article he mentions University of Chile and the Catholic University, the former is more public and presidents graduated from there, my understanding is you have to get the equivalent of 1400 or more on Chilean SAT's to go there.
Catholic university is top notch too, spits out world-class engineers and other lucrative degrees.
So there are decent options, my gripe with Peña is that he celebrates the trashy schools, peppering his defense of the abusive free market with words like "diversity" and "socio-economic" equality, dressing up Chile's caste-system with pseudo-liberal tripe. It's like a snake-oil salesmen ambling through India declaring the country to be a "class-less society". It's completely disingenuous this man is a social pariah and should be hanged a midnight. Except...oh yeah, Chilean Establishment is more or less on his side.
Also worth mentioning that Chico State (from California), the infamous party school with absolutely no academic gravitas, has its exchange program linked up to the Catholic University. The worst of California = the best of Chile. But perhaps that's common for exchange programs to lose a lot in translation.
If you really want to be taken seriously:
First, you need to drop that cocky American-first-world-superpower-number-one attitude you've been exhibiting in each of your posts. You are not better than us.
Second, you have to resist always belittling our institutions, our culture and our society in general.
Third, you have to make balanced constructive criticism. That means looking at an issue from all possible angles, and then offering viable, intelligent solutions.
If you take this approach from now on, I assure you a lot of doors that are now closed to you will being to open. And you'll feel a lot better too.
My two cents.
@Yours Truly, when it comes to comments, 'yours' are 'truly' not worth publishing except to point out the irony of the pseudo-liberal, hypocritical tripe you advance, which is representative of those with way-too-thin skin and not much going on upstairs.
You are a case study of knickers-in-a-bunch, twisted-balls (if you had any) utterly pointless kavetching while the rest of us have real issues to discuss.
You can't even give examples of this "superpower superiority" I supposedly exhibit. You can't communicate on an educated level, but instead try to shout me down, in a bitchy-ass, PC whine. It's as if you'd never, ever been exposed to constructive criticism.
As if, one might even conclude, you had never entered the halls of an accredited university. But that would be fine for you, of course. You would rather not offend the hacks who run your country.
You, who preach the tired liberal lines of 'tolerance' and 'blind-deference-to-third-worlders, even the rich, white, exploitative third worlders', would let that grossly misdirected PC rhetoric trump a true evil in Chile - bad education and profit mongering by charlatans, a system that promotes Chile's hyper-conservative, elitist caste system under the guise of Diversity, and ends up perpetuating the inferiority of the masses, and Latin America in general.
I give a flying fuck how nicely I put it, but I'm speaking the Truth on this issue, condensing what Chileans have personally complained to me about, and conducting an interpretation that any nitwit with half and ounce of critical thinking ability could conduct by reading Carlos Penya's horrifying defense of Chile's broken education system, a system which was forced on Chile under duress of one of the continent's most violent and psychologically repressive military regimes, NOT democratically - oh! I'm so SORRY for imposing my First World ideals on you.
Your pathetic whimperings, your "hurt" feelings do a grave injustice to the shrieks of those were placed on electrified wracks in the dungeons of Santiago, over whose dead bodies today's Grand Institutions of Chile were founded, the institutions that you seek to defend from my claws. You write:
>>>Second, you have to resist always belittling our institutions...
Good God why? Sing Telefonica's praises while they bureaucratically beat down your countrymen like dogs??? Who's fucking side are you on anyway?
Fuck you if you can't handle my harsh words, fuck you if I don't feel like being balanced in one of the most Economically Unequal countries in the world. It would be fitting for a monarch to plead a "balanced" approach from his surfs.
Therefore, your pathetic appeal for "balance" is such the cock-of-Boss-sucking Centrism as only a true enemy of the common Chilean could promote.
Why would I want to be "taken seriously" by the likes of you? What doors are as of yet unopened to me, keep them shut I would rather hang my self than suffer through the intellectual purgatory that your company forebodes.
There's no reconciling anything with me you witless hack. Despite being Chilean, you are far more of an enemy of Chile than I am.
Chile actually is getting a huge number of graduates, and that's a good thing. If they're not world-class professionals, it doesn't matter: Chile is still a small, under -developed economy.
It can't be a bad thing to have lots of educated people. Now, obviosuly the private university graduates know very well why they are not in 'traditional' university. So I don't think they air an awful lot of criticism.
I take it that you cheer for a system where all universities are 'accredited' = just red tape. The only thing that matters is to provide prospective students with information on what to expect after they graduate.
But the problem is deeper than that, and to get down to the root of the problem we have to look at the mediocre state-run 'municipal' education, which is in shambles, but wait. Not long ago, we had problems to get people to read and write. Literacy is high now, yet not 100% yet, but now we have a good platform to achieve real results.
And this is my main criticism against your article: you think the state will do the job.
Municipalities are simply not up for the job. The massive improvement in literacy was due to Pinochet's semi-private (subvencionados) schools, which actually work as a 'school voucher'.
A pity that in Chile, the vouchers are assigned to each school according to the number of students they enrol, and not directly to the families.
If the state is not up to the expectations, knowing that governments are crap, and that the current government is simply not capable, why there's nobody proposing the school vouchers?
Once you get better prepared primary and secondary students, we can start thinking on how to improve universities. But we need to do the groundwork first.
On the other hand, catholic schools skim off the most talented, and give them a lousy God-fearing education, which explains why the elite is a bunch of bitches and wankers (think of Lavín and the Opus Dei brigade).
Third-level education is a problem, but I think is the consequence of an underlying yet more serious deficit.
By the way, the Pisa test results were not bad, although of course Provoste and Bachelet inflated the results. But you criticse what you see now, and take a look now at the context, and we are now, at least, getting the people educated. That comes first. Quality, later.
Take a look:
Playground harmony
Nice to see that i haven't missed much of this mudslinging, insult laden exchange here on C.hileno.com. I just don't understand why you have to be graphic Don G. Do you think your incredibly piercing insults that much more effective in this playground fight.
Although I could share uninformed opinion about private universities, it really wouldn't be worth anyone's time.
But, I do think that is valuable to agregar a la conversación the recently published book by Maria Olivia Monckeberg, “El negocio de las universidades en Chile” See more info here.
http://www.elciudadano.cl/2007/12/14/maria-olivia-monckeberg-public/
Hey, YOURS TRULY, where do I stand. Im half chilean. Do I get to half-criticize Chile?
C.hileno is not going away, until he does. Your criticisms of him, his style, and his content do absolutely nothing, except incite his foul mouth to retribution.
But, I ask, Yours Truly, what that C.hileno says has not been already said by Chileans in living rooms and more intimate spaces before?
Chile is filled with people who criticize Chile. And the fact that Chile looks towards the United States so regularly with the pathetic look of a begging street dog with particular for its ideology, management philosophies, musical influences, monetary policy, consumer habits, etc.
I remember hearing the comment of someone once who declared that Chile lost its way when it ceased to look towards Europe as its model, and towards the United States.
Tis true, tis true. And this, unfortunately, or fortunately, makes ribald, and offensive, peanut gallery commentators like C.hileno a member of the crowd in the theater, whether an individual Chileno likes it or not.
Sadly for you, your country, my country, has already been sold to the devil, and lost its identity by people in power and the weakness of the people who bought into the "alegria". Its your job to recapture it.
Can you?
@Chile Liberal
>>>And this is my main criticism against your article: you think the state will do the job.
When did I say that? Please don't mis-represent my position. I only showed Oppenheimer's article that Latin America sucks on a world scale, but that the root of the problem isn't necessarily the fact that it's state run, as he suggested. In fact, the state run schools of Brazil and Mexico made the top-200 list, nothing from Chile did.
>>>It can't be a bad thing to have lots of educated people.
Yes, it can. If they're badly educated, and they're performing heart surgery - that's bad.
>>>The massive improvement in literacy was due to Pinochet's semi-private (subvencionados) schools,
Fine, so did Castro increase literacy. What is "literacy" anyway, what grade level? You gotta think more critically, dude.
>>>If they're not world-class professionals, it doesn't matter: Chile is still a small, under -developed economy.
That's absolute bullshit and you know it. I've met plenty of Chileans who are world-class chemists, journalists, actors, etc. But they're not coming out of shitty, unaccredited universities. Your dismissiveness of your own country's potential is frightening.
You said:
The problem isn't necessarily that these schools are "state-run", as he slyly suggests. The problem is just that the overall culture of education in Latin America sucks balls.
Perhaps you thought you nailed it, but you didn't. Because the problem is that the state is a failure, and so education should not be managed by Bachelet, Provoste, and whoever comes next (most likely, Insulza).
OK, you didn't clearly state that you wanted the public sector to be involved, but I thought you implied it. That's the impression I had. What is your proposal anyway? I mean it can't be all down to Chileans intrinsic stupidity. I believe is the state, run by the incompetent, and elected by the uneducated. Let the market work its magic. In other words, we could implement a school vouchers programme.
What is "literacy" anyway, what grade level?
Chile had a problem -serious problem- of illiteracy, I mean people could not read. It may look silly for you, but now the problem is quality, not quantity.
And I meant to say that of course there are top notch professionals. I also meant that today the Chilean economy doesn't demand big numbers of them. Professionals are not ahead of the market. Universities are providing what the market requires. The small agricultural/mining economy of the country is like that. It is simply not a knowledge-based economy which would demand world-class and highly educated people.
The economy's needs and requirements will be met by universities, and if it is a crappy economy, universities won't go the extra mile. It's the economy, stupid.
I don't believe for a second in that accreditation nonsense.
China, South Korea, and Singapore incorporate highly developed and diversified economies, while Chile has yet to reach a more industrialized status. The quickest way to achieve that upward trend of industrialization is to educate the masses.
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@Tomas, who wrote:
>>>...Chile lost its way when it ceased to look towards Europe as its model, and towards the United States.
Tis true, tis true. And this, unfortunately, or fortunately, makes ribald, and offensive, peanut gallery commentators like C.hileno a member of the crowd in the theater, whether an individual Chileno likes it or not.
How has Chile's pathetic street dog gaze shifting to the US increased the proliferation of US-born straight talkers like me? Gringos have always been in Chile. Were there less assholish blogs-about-Chile like mine in the 19th century than there are now? Where's your proof?
Joking aside, I'd like to comment that it's obvious you're reaching, dude. If you want to make the case that US intervention in Chilean affairs has created more US-born critics of Chile than from other countries, you're going to half to back that up. Really, though, what I suspect is that was just another hackneyed vehicle of yours to tsk-tsk my language as if you were a traumatized, prozac-addled Santiaguino who sees more value in sweeping an issue under the carpet than in truly indicting an obvious douchebag like "Yours Truly", who would support the perpetuation of the word "nigger" in the black community just as he would support the degradation of his fellow countrymen, by shouting down critics of his absolutely broke-down country.
But what's really bothering me Tomás is your apparent eagerness to debunk the validity of my criticisms by flaunting your partial Chilean nationality.
Sorry to offend your "-áss" Chilean half, but my criticisms hold as much weight regardless of my nationality. Changing your name from "Thomas" to "Tomás" doesn't give you an edge.
You and that "Yours Truly" pansy are the only ones who seem to take offense at my direct way of speaking. Remember that the only time I started the abusive cussing in this thread is when YT derailed the conversation and launched a personal attack. He deserved every word and more because a) he was offensive to begin with and b) he took everybody's attention off topic like the presumptuous little fuck that he is.
NOW, he's trying to get back in, using this holier-than-thou tsk-tsk tone of a self-righteous, hypocritical appeal to "civility" - I censored his ass - ha! If you don't even attempt to add value to the conversation, don't bother trying to comment.
So, if fucknut wants to engage you, Tomás in a tete-a-tete among true Chileans I will allow him back on - YT: Tomás asked you a question ANSWER IT you ill-bred little brat - but be forewarned Tomás that YT pulls rank he's a thoroughbred Chilean, while you're only half-áss.
"But what's really bothering me Tomás is your apparent eagerness to debunk the validity of my criticisms by flaunting your partial Chilean nationality."
You dumb ass Will. I'm defending your insecure ass, and you jump down my throat. I apologize if the way that I wrote made you react this way.
Im saying that criticisms about the validity and existence of your words, as a gringo commenting based upon exhaustively cited sources, experiences, etc. on Chile (what YT says) are bunk.
Alternatively, are you saying that our voices are the same, per chance, as your voice is the same as Niles, or your friend in Valparaiso, or your friends at the Santiago Times? Im sure you would not say this.
"Sorry to offend your "-áss" Chilean half, but my criticisms hold as much weight regardless of my nationality. Changing your name from "Thomas" to "Tomás" doesn't give you an edge"
Im not offended by your style, but just consistently amazed and struck by your zeal in launching incisive personal rebuttals on your commentators.
By, the way, can you inform me when I changed my name? Do you know anything about me?
Also to the point of halfness, Im not criticizing you, Im ASKING A FUCKING RHETORICAL QUESTION OF YOURS TRULY! Did I say that I have an edge because of my halfness? No. Am I different than you, yes. YT says that a gringo can't comment on Chile and a Chilean can. Im half and half. Where do I stand in my right to make commentary. THAT is the question. WTF.
"If you want to make the case that US intervention in Chilean affairs has created more US-born critics of Chile than from other countries, you're going to half to back that up.
You loosely interpreted again Don G. When did I say interventionism? Im talking about what Chileans have done to themselves over the years since shifting their outlook to the United States. Because the US figures so easily into the Chilean culture, norms, consumer models, capitalism, etc...that Chileans are beholden in many ways to the United States as well as the perspectives that are derived from people from there.
So along that vein, the criticisms of a north american are MORE valid, than someone from Singapore, or Panama.
"Really, though, what I suspect is that was just another hackneyed vehicle of yours to tsk-tsk my language as if you were a traumatized, prozac-addled Santiaguino who sees more value in sweeping an issue under the carpet than in truly..."
Your right, as usual.
Thank you for defending me T and sorry for over-reacting. I just generally associate "peanut gallery" with less-than-worthy and that's fine, but it means I go into attack mode and fair game and perhaps my Sherman-esque Total War tactics wiped out the women and children of your sensibilities and the fact that you fundamentally sided with me in the first place, with a few jabs that I blew out of proportion relative to the rest.
Again I appreciate your bitch slapping YT, and understand you are nuanced but when at War, I don't do nuance well.
Again, it's War: my personal jabs back atcha not to be taken, well, personally :-)
>>>By, the way, can you inform me when I changed my name? Do you know anything about me?
You and I have investigated other people on the Internet, but I have also investigated you. Mua-ha-ha. I don't know when, I just know that you did. Or I think I know. I could be wrong. Were you born Thomas, or Tomás? Either way I respect your decision, I was born William, now I am Chileno.
Don't have time to respond to everything right now but re: foreign critics, I guess what it comes down to is I like it when Chileans respect the views of foreigners as equals and valid critics and not get all uppity about the fact that I'm gringo and have this bi-polar either over-adulation or xenophobia. I don't know. Obviously the vast majority of Chileans who I've met are reasonable about this, perhaps more than hicks from the USA who go apeshit over British charlatans like Christopher Hitchens, we've got a long and shameful history of that, too.
But yeah you're totally right Chile's being victimized by globalization makes them a US carbon copy gone wrong and perhaps we gringos see it the best. That's a good point.
Interesting. What I would like to know is to which country in Asia Chile is being comparing too. I would imagine that N. & S. Korea have diferent standards as well as Japan and China and which one of these country standards would actually improve the actual Chilean education by implementation?
You mean Asia isn't all the same country?
Well, you'll have to read the article or re-read my post and see which specific asian countries, or states-of-asia, are being discussed.
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