How To Say Sorry
This has nothing to do with the point of the post but if you want to learn how to say sorry in Spanish, click here for a free Spanish lesson.
Now, back to business:
Canadians are looking for a retraction and apology from Bachelet, soccer guy Harold Mayne-Nicholls' arguably disingenuous apology not enough, perhaps just because he doesn't rank like a president. Bachelet called the Toronto Police's use of force "unjustified," and the Toronto police have now shown that it was justified. That's how this Edmonton Sun editorial starts off, and how others have been backing up their requests for an apology.
My stance on it is prolly open to liberal interpretation, I have repeatedly said an "independent" investigation is what you should wait for before calling foul, and that hasn't really happened yet. On the other extreme I've also kinda said that one of the players' ill-spoken admission of his team members' wrong-doing, punching an officer in the face, "proves" that the force was justified.
Maybe it doesn't "prove" it, but it sure as hell tips the meter toward the "justified" end of things. What it certainly does prove, along with the results of the Toronto Police's investigation, is that Chilean President Michelle Bachelet spoke to soon, and for that she should apologize, even if she or whoever wants to take the investigation further.
Although there's a shitload of evidence showing that the officers acted correctly, I think Chile still has a right to call for an independent investigation if they even want to. While probably right, I don't exactly agree with many Canadians' judgment that the case is closed because an internal police department investigation proved no wrong doing on the part of the police. Yes, they handled it a whole lot more professionally than the Chileans, but it's still partial.
Apart from that, I think it's a decent editorial because it raises some interesting questions about Bachelet's cynical populism and its international diplomatic implications:
At this point it just seems like Canadian populism that would drive Harper to demand an apology, he and his Barrick buddies depend dearly on Chile's whorish compliance, which as Hernán pointed out Bachelet is still being vague about, her decision about lifting Canadian trade tariffs or whatnot will impact the severity of environmental damage being wrought by Pascua Lama, whatever humans can do at this point. Anyway, it might not be in Harper's best interest to demand an apology, he'll have to weigh this one.
In fact, it makes me wonder about the juxtaposition of Bachelet's quick and fiery accusations and Harper's cool and collected "wait for the investigation, no further comment" response. Is that a reflection of a bunch of hot headed Latins banging up against the skeptical frigidity of a British Commonwealth? A presidenta working the feelings of her uneducated masses while her Canadian counterpart speaks to a more rational class of soccer fans and political junkies? Or does it simply betray the power dynamics at play? I don't have a profound understanding of this, but a quick glance shows me that Chile is where Pascua Lama is. I'd suspect that Canada needs Chile a lot more than Chile needs Canadá.
Bachelet might not "apologize", expressly. Canada might turn its blind black eye to the whole mess if trade tariffs are slashed, at least, the Canada that matters. That Canada needs only one kind of "apology". Harper can demand a soccer apology, not get it, and still win an election. If she's smart, Bachelet won't give that apology, "her people" won't be humiliated. They'll just end up be missing a glacier or two.
That never lost an election before.
Now, back to business:
Canadians are looking for a retraction and apology from Bachelet, soccer guy Harold Mayne-Nicholls' arguably disingenuous apology not enough, perhaps just because he doesn't rank like a president. Bachelet called the Toronto Police's use of force "unjustified," and the Toronto police have now shown that it was justified. That's how this Edmonton Sun editorial starts off, and how others have been backing up their requests for an apology.
My stance on it is prolly open to liberal interpretation, I have repeatedly said an "independent" investigation is what you should wait for before calling foul, and that hasn't really happened yet. On the other extreme I've also kinda said that one of the players' ill-spoken admission of his team members' wrong-doing, punching an officer in the face, "proves" that the force was justified.
Maybe it doesn't "prove" it, but it sure as hell tips the meter toward the "justified" end of things. What it certainly does prove, along with the results of the Toronto Police's investigation, is that Chilean President Michelle Bachelet spoke to soon, and for that she should apologize, even if she or whoever wants to take the investigation further.
Although there's a shitload of evidence showing that the officers acted correctly, I think Chile still has a right to call for an independent investigation if they even want to. While probably right, I don't exactly agree with many Canadians' judgment that the case is closed because an internal police department investigation proved no wrong doing on the part of the police. Yes, they handled it a whole lot more professionally than the Chileans, but it's still partial.
Apart from that, I think it's a decent editorial because it raises some interesting questions about Bachelet's cynical populism and its international diplomatic implications:
Indeed, whenever Bachelet is mentioned as a tough leader who fights for the downtrodden, do not be surprised to read a sentence about how she talked tough against a brutal Toronto police force, if the comments are not officially and formally retracted.Another interesting connection:
Two days before the soccer incident, Harper was in Chile where he and Bachelet signed the Canada-Chile Partnership Framework, which will deepen and expand relations between the two countries.As in pisco sour? Or the tart sourness of champagne bubbling forth at the corporate offices of Barrick Gold in Santiago?
The incident at BMO stadium alone would not have significantly impacted on that pact, but Bachelet's outburst did, in fact, sour the new-found relationship.
At this point it just seems like Canadian populism that would drive Harper to demand an apology, he and his Barrick buddies depend dearly on Chile's whorish compliance, which as Hernán pointed out Bachelet is still being vague about, her decision about lifting Canadian trade tariffs or whatnot will impact the severity of environmental damage being wrought by Pascua Lama, whatever humans can do at this point. Anyway, it might not be in Harper's best interest to demand an apology, he'll have to weigh this one.
In fact, it makes me wonder about the juxtaposition of Bachelet's quick and fiery accusations and Harper's cool and collected "wait for the investigation, no further comment" response. Is that a reflection of a bunch of hot headed Latins banging up against the skeptical frigidity of a British Commonwealth? A presidenta working the feelings of her uneducated masses while her Canadian counterpart speaks to a more rational class of soccer fans and political junkies? Or does it simply betray the power dynamics at play? I don't have a profound understanding of this, but a quick glance shows me that Chile is where Pascua Lama is. I'd suspect that Canada needs Chile a lot more than Chile needs Canadá.
Bachelet might not "apologize", expressly. Canada might turn its blind black eye to the whole mess if trade tariffs are slashed, at least, the Canada that matters. That Canada needs only one kind of "apology". Harper can demand a soccer apology, not get it, and still win an election. If she's smart, Bachelet won't give that apology, "her people" won't be humiliated. They'll just end up be missing a glacier or two.
That never lost an election before.
















9 Comments:
This pretending to be "of the people" has to stop. B!chtelet does not exude fiery. Seriously, Michele Bachelet went to school in Bethesda Maryland,(a wealthy and highly educated suburd) in the early 60's when her father was stationed to work at the Chilean Embassy in DC. She is very aware of the diplomatic temperament expressed by Europeans and the North Americans elites. What she needs to do is fire her advisors and hire a more polished team of advisors. Bachelet is in dire need of presenting herself in a more dignified manner. Epecially when dealing with other heads of states and the international press. It says a great deal about Chile when la presidenta jumps the gun so quickly. In more "civilized" countries, the practice is to always have the president's mouthpiece face the press with the nuetral "No comment at this time". Once the situation has been thoroughly analyzied, then they go on the record in getting their point cross, without saying something that can come back to haunt the country in the future. All she is doing is trying to make "her people" feel warm and fuzzy. They are already humiliatied with their living conditions. Hopefully this little blunder does not come back to bite Chile in its flat ass.
It would be fantastic if that football team blew away the pascua lama thing, too bad the argies were not in the fight :-)
''They are already humiliated with their living conditions''. Their living conditions? What are you implying here? Can you please specify and give examples?
I don't know what idea you have in your mind about Chile. Maybe you imagine every city as a slum? For your information, in Chile, as in almost every other country in the world, there are different classes of people, some wealthier than others. Yes, in Chile there are slums, and there is poverty, but many people are also well-off and are living to a very good standard.
Mike, here's a good place to start.
Santiago, The Ghetto of the Future
-by Tomás Dinges, dual Chilean/United States citizen, journalist.
Should Chile feel honored that you regarded it as having a flat ass? Flat asses are a very common "white" attribute. Chile should embrace the term flat ass.
Chileno, thanks for the link.
I like the article, it is very true what Tomás says. I know because I have been in those apartments myself. However, every Chilean I personally know is happy with they way they live, even those in the apartments, it's nothing to be ''humiliated'' of in my opinion.
Santiago has little space for urban sprawl, so the buildings are designed to fit in as many apartments as possible for the lowest possible cost, making a lot be of poor quality. Not everyone lives in the centre of Santiago, however. What faithful lurker said, was in a way, stereotyping all Chileans.
It's funny to see the actual president jumping on that wagon. I kind of expect that from somebody like...Carlos Menem, so fucking tacky. A president taking on a fan role, if that is the person who's steering the country...wow.
I have not read or heard anything about Harper asking for an apology, perhaps he does give a fuck about soccer and bottom line, it's a provincial issue, even further, a city issue, not a nacional issue, I think.
I mean, we(Canada)got guys fucking dying in Afganistan trying to protect the interest of others. I think we got more deep shit to take care of than fucking soccer...then again, maybe it's just me...
By the way, Beck-ham is a fucking joke.
Chile is a small town. Therefore, small town issues become national issues. There is absolutely no perspective.
It's strange to ponder because the only "city" in Chile is Santiago, and it's large population wise but culturally it's a small town. There is some culture, as any small town has some. But overall, it's really provincial, conservative, ridiculously formal. And it's home to close to 40% of Chile.
So the president is really just an elevated soccer mom, she gets her whole cabinet together at her place, convinced they would beat Argentina and lost face when her little boys lost. Got on TV and said, "we love you anyway!" And then they proceeded to attack the Toronto police, according to some versions of the story.
Beck-ham, sure. If you say so. I don't know anything about soccer.
Mike those apartments are just as crummy as the little shacks built in the shanty towns during "las toma" era of the early 1970's. Would you live in either of those two places? And I did not stereotype Chile; the sad thing is there are an overwhelming amount of people who do fit that description. If you read some of the other posts I told Will about the little genteel milieu of Santiaguinos who have had to share their high society space with all the new military money. Or how there was a bit more diverse types of people before the Pinochet Era. Before he brainwashed people into mini Pinobots.
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